Peter Biello: Hmm. Well within there. Caller: It had just left that field and was out. It's not an emerging endangered species no work no there are there are populations in specific states so the Florida panther is is an endangered species that sub population is in fact listed under the Endangered Species Act. But my experience was that the majority of these accounts could not be taken lightly. For me as a person who's handled many bobcats and looked at many pictures Bobcat the White chin Bobcat right off is what comes out to me and then the black the the roughs on our Bobcats we'll have sometimes have black fringes on them. Sam Evans-Brown: One in fact Helena silver in that sort of tome that Rick van de Poll read from at the beginning is she. They get a lot of media attention but compared to the the amount of times that a mountain lion could attack a person but doesn't because they don't typically view us as prey. Pelosi story here we go. And so I just wanted to share my share my experience with you guys and it was pretty awesome to see if you get to see one albeit it was in the brush. Thank you very much for listening. Peter Biello: Wow. Peter Biello: Listeners give us a call if you have a question or a story of a sighting 1 800 8 9 2 6 4 7 7. We'll hear from her periodically through the show. Is that typically what was happening there. We did a short segment about mountain lion sightings earlier this year and and after which I was sent a photo and also a video recording that was mostly just audio because it was so dark the photo just a quick reverse Google image search you can put images online and see where else where else they've been posted revealed that the photo had been taking out taken out in Wyoming and has been used you know hundreds of times to claim and the person who sent it to me said it had been taken New Hampshire. And there's there's no evidence of that cat's movement in that entire you know 12 hundred miles stretch of its journey. The next week, on June 11, the cat was hit and killed by an SUV on the Wilbur Cross Parkway in Milford. There's always been physical evidence to prove those situations like hair or fur scat hair prints pictures of the animal print scat hair. So one thing I'd point out is we've been talking about situations with no evidence a number of them come in with photographs and yet what they fit what they description of the animal they saw and by the way I got a picture of what I saw. Right. That's what we're seeing is dispersing mountain lions from the West who are just making their way through. So I certainly can't dispute anything that they said there's no evidence for me to go by to verify or say what my thoughts are on the situation. Your support makes this news available to everyone. Rick van de Poll: Absolutely. Part II. Peter Biello: I did mention four feet nose to tail would be kind of small for a mountain lion. By, March 2023 Fund Drive Rules and Regulations, Persons with disabilities who need assistance accessing NHPR's FCC public files, please contact us at publicfile@nhpr.org. Were there any differences between these two that we could have noticed right off. It was a 140-pound male mountain lion, the first confirmed in Connecticut in more than 100 years. People were calling the New Hampshire Fish and Game director's office saying why are you dragging your feet on this. Its closest living relative is the cheetah. Sue Morse: The big cat really commands the utmost respect not so much fear but fascination. Good morning guys. Thank you very much for being here. Which which I think Pat and I have both experienced. Peter Biello: Worth mentioning if we're scaring anybody question a mysterious mountain lions lurking perhaps in someone's backyard. It doesn't happen as much anymore. Well let's talk a little bit about that. Using DNA and physical evidence, state environmental officials said they determined that the animal . There is some information that suggests that it spent a portion of its time in Massachusetts near the Claiborne reservoir. Mountain Lion report and as a biologist for the state that's a situation where if he said to me what did I see. Caller: Well I think Patrick I recognized your name. And what was really remarkable about the whole thing was I was maybe a half mile down on all buildings. The females disperse a shorter range and once they find a vacant home range they stay in that location and live there. You know I'm like seriously I can't get a picture of the thing but what it what it is. Patrick Tate: So I agree with what Sam said in part that their ability to go undetected for amount of time but ultimately it was detected. So now what's going on. But if you do if you think you're looking at a wild Puma their tail is very thick and especially in the winter is very thick and ponderous looking. Yes and you want to share what you learned. I'm Peter Biello in for Laura NOI. Patrick Tate: If I could just say one thing. So it's six months of a large large predatory animal that moves great distances on the landscape that is not known if it went northeast west Salt and how many circles it did. Peter Biello: We mentioned that the eastern cougar and the Western cougar are they were separate eastern cougar believed to be extinct. And when provoked no animal could stand before him elegantly put. Sam Evans-Brown: So Tim so this cat's been been referenced a couple of times I think we should talk about it specifically lay the whole story out for folks who haven't heard the story because it's actually I think really indicative of a lot of stuff for talking about. And I can recall its information but I can't confirm or verify anything. I think that you probably are. And it was you know 10 or 12 people saw it all at once. So there's even debate about that very subject. Think you've seen a mountain lion? The western mountain lion lives in a more of a grassland open area now so to blend in with a very lighted situation here in the Northeast we are very shadowy dark situation because of the forest and our cats wear a darker brownish reddish color than what they were and they were also smaller than what the western mountain lion is. I'm Peter Biello. Love hearing these stories. No evidence and other states where Mountain lights have turned up. Peter Biello: Well hey Rob. Possible Mountain Lion Sighting in New Hampshire CONCORD, N.H. -- The New Hampshire Fish and Game Department today reported that one of its staff members, following up on a routine report of a mountain lion sighting, saw what is believed to be a mountain lion in a rural area of Barnstead, N.H. Peter Biello: Let's talk to Ron and where Ron thanks very much for calling. As recently as 2011 there was one young male mountain lion that cruised all the way from the black hills of South Dakota, up over the Great Lakes, down through New Yorkgetting spotted all along the waykilled a beaver near the Quabbin Reservoir in Central Massachusetts, left behind prints and DNA at that site, and then was hit by a car in Connecticut. Sam Evans-Brown: Well this might be a good moment to talk about hoaxes. The second one was not only fresh but when I actually put my hand on it it was you know smelled like cat and I it's there's no denying a fresh mountain lions get if you can tell it every story that KOAT. From came from out west they tracked it all the way back to the Black Hills in the Dakotas. It was some sort of a Lion Mountain Lion animal. Patrick Tate: My line being a large predator a cat watch ambush his prey animal that hasn't been. So when we talk about the threshold of evidence required to say for sure you have seen a mountain lion it is rather high. Caller: And the more I thought about it the color of it it was definitely not a bobcat. So what counts as verifiable evidence? There have been several alleged sightings of mountain lions in New Hampshire recently. You need you need either a really good photograph or you need you know fresh scat that can be sent to a lab out West that can they can be identified there. New Hampshire Public Radio | If you have them email exchange at an HP board or give us a call to tell us your story. The views expressed in this program are those of the individuals and not those of an HP are its board of trustees or its underwriters. It is also known as cougar, panther, mountain lion, and puma, though catamount is the preferred regional vernacular. But if people are still seeing mountain lions, why is the state and federal government seeking to COVER IT UP!? Second when I when they did forward it from Wyoming to to Michigan you know this was coming right from sample 18 and 19 had no remarkable differences from known mountain lions from Michigan or Wyoming. What Really Caused Washington's Cougar Attack. I'll send it to you. But but I've also seen it cited the opposite way that look they're very secretive. Patrick Tate: Yeah yeah. Share. So I've been convinced the whole time that I saw a big cougar plume or whatever you want to call it standing there in the road in Greenfield. My YouTube Channel NH Fish and Game YouTube Channel My Facebook Page My Weekly Live Stream on the NH Wildlife Federation FB Page Home About Eric 2022 NH Nature Notes NH Wildlife NH Wildlife Deer Deer in NH And trying to figure out the little pieces to identify him so I bring up the names the differences but the appearances can be confusing for some. The evidence for the 1874 cougar is so hard that it's held in a display case in the State Museum of . Your support makes this news available to everyone. The exchange is a production of New Hampshire Public Radio. But also I think it proves the opposite point which is that sometimes they're pretty secretive because all the way from Minnesota where the where was the first time was picked up on a game camera to New York. Is there something particularly hospitable about New Hampshire Forests that make them want to come here. I mean no doubt a seen Bobcat seen his stuff. He said matter of fact I do. So they're not afraid of humans and they'll show up like a regular housecat. So so it is possible in Maine to still to to to have one but you have to be sort of professional handler as it were. We mentioned that one cat that was hit by a car where it has it that it was a male looking for me. Yes. Patrick Tate: It's wow interesting that you brought this up because I've had people report I saw cardamom. Peter Biello: Mm hmm. Have you seen one. When you talk about a bobcat Bobcat maybe 80 90 pounds and then a mountain lion could be between 130 and 180 pounds. Patrick Tate New Hampshire Fish and Game Wildlife Biologist thanks very much for being here this morning really appreciate it. Peter Biello: This is the exchange on an HD PR fine Peter Biello and today we're talking with folks who can tell us about the mysterious elusive mountain line and whether or not it is actually here in New Hampshire. Still, it's been over 100 years since the last mountain lion was killed east of the Mississippi, except for a patch of them down in Florida, where there are supposed to be 100 to 200 still living. I just want to tell you a story that I read. So I reached down to grab the camera and looked back and like a ghost it's gone. Monday, December 5th: Mountain Lions in New Hampshire? There are also many unconfirmed sightings. The one confirmed case, sometimes referred to as the " Connecticut Mountain Lion " happened in June 2011 when an SUV struck and killed a cougar in Milford. Border Peter Biello: And that will make identification for a layperson rather difficult. I can't tell you what you saw but it sounds like a mountain lion. Novartis sold $1.1 billion worth of Gilenya in the U.S. last year, a 19% drop from 2021 that was caused in part by generic competition, according to . Patrick Tate: Martin Like what about Panther Panther saying animals same animal and like a bit of trivia Guinness Book of World Records says the animal with the most names is in English alone they're supposedly 40 names for Mount lion. Rick shaking his head so Rick now correct me please. John thanks. (Cue the X-Files music: The Government is denying the cougars exist!) This decision was primarily for nerdy phylogeny reasons, though, because the eastern cougar probably never existed. Gotcha, so the Deep State is suppressing mountain lion news in order to prop up New Hampshire tourism? So for those reasons I don't believe the standards are too high the amount of game cameras out on the landscape to record images department alone through contracts had over 150 throughout the state biologists go through various deer yards throughout the year. There wasn't a distinct subspecies the North American mountain lion is all is all one species and then you can find a genetically distinct South American subspecies. And I was probably about a half a mile from downtown all village on the right. Today she talked with us a little bit before the show about why the mountain line is so compelling and why we want it to be part of our world. But having read a bit of information about his cougar there are a darker subspecies. But I do think that it's appropriate that a fishing game agency would recognize verifiable proof if they could. 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